What is the Fiercest Diss Record Of All Time

Discussion about the Greatest Diss Record Poll

Recently, I helped come up with a list for the Phire Music Poll, “What is the Fiercest Diss Record of All Time?” Please check out the list that people voted on.
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After last years Drake vs Meek Mill beef and the resurrection of “No Vaseline” Diss song from the NWA movie, I felt this would be an interested topic.  What were the top diss records of all-time?  I lived through every song on the list when they actually dropped, and I understand the significance of each record.

As a result of couple of hundred votes, 2Pac’s “Hit em Up” was voted the fiercest diss record of all time with 40% of the vote.  Everyone will have their own opinion. However, I could explain the significance of each record because I lived through it as a knowledgeable Hip-Hop fan.  But to keep my post short, I will explain the top three diss records and their significance at the time.

  1. Hit Em Up- 2Pac: Except for a few rumors that were buzzin’ in the underground on how 2Pac and BIG were not cool no more, 2Pac blaming Big for his shooting, and the rumor that “Who Shot Ya” was geared to 2Pac, this song came out of nowhere.  This song just started out vicious, and no matter how many people want to deny it, it was true…“That’s why I fucked your Bitch!” Pac really didn’t kill it lyrically, but it flowed. This song hit the clubs, and everybody knew the lyrics and it had lines that people chanted “grab ya glocks when u see 2pac, call the cops when u see 2pac.”  Also out of nowhere, he disses Mobb Deep and the fact that Prodigy had sickle cell. That was because they did a song called LA LA, which wasn’t a diss record.  Also, Pac’s energy was so high, he made you feel the song even more.  This song was basically the start of the East Coast and West Coast war, and the beginning of the end of 2Pac and Biggie.  R.I.P.
  2. No Vaseline- Ice Cube: I really didn’t think it is has harsh as everyone says, but it was the 1st song out of the NWA & Ice Cube that 100% addressed the beef.  Other than that they were basically taking small jabs at each other.  So, Ice Cube went completely in.  He showed how hypocritical NWA was, and how they were getting ripped off by Jerry Heller.  What also was crazy, NWA never responded, and shortly after Dr. Dre left the groupm he stateed he was getting ripped off, and basically the group broke up.
  3. Ether- Nas: Most people remember one of the biggest rivals in Hip-Hop history.  Two of the top New York and Hip-Hop rappers.  Also, they were always being argued on who was the King of NY.  Before Ether there were many subliminal disses.  The beef is known to go back as far as before or during the Reasonable Doubt album, but it took center stage with a Nas diss record on an Erik B/ Rakim Beat.  Jay Z actually came strong on the commercial copy of “Take Over.”  At this point Jay Z was the King of NY and was winning the beef.  Many thought it was over.  Right before Nas released his the Stillmatic album, Ether dropped.  It was fierce with crazy punchlines that showed you the key on how to make diss records.  Everyone but Jay’s Stans knew that Nas beat the Jigga Man.  Even though, Jay Z released more songs, that beef was done, Nas won.

Other Notable Songs:

  1. Back Down- 50 Cent:  Basically, this was the nail in the coffin.  50 was hammering Ja Rule and Murder Inc on mixtapes songs.  Get Rich or Die Tryin was the most anticipated album that year.  This song was put together with a Dre beat, hot hook, and great diss lyrics.  This basically finished Ja Rule. He was already done on the street level, but this album went gold 1st week and platinum the 2nd week.  It open the doors commercially about the beef with Ja Rule who didn’t know about the beef, and who didn’t have access to mixtapes, which were a lot of Ja Rule fans.
  2. Long Kiss Goodnight- Notorious B.I.G.: I had to put this in the list because this one of the hardest diss records that noone knows is a diss record.  This song killed 2Pac lyrically and viciously.  It was written and finalized after 2Pac’s death.  People don’t realize that this was a diss record because Diddy and BIG went around denying (and lying) that they never said anything about 2Pac, and that they were taking the high road. All lies, but understandable on a business side of things. One thing about east coast lyricist, they are known to use subliminal disses, and diss you without saying your name.  Diddy made sure on the final mix, that the diss wasn’t too obvious by muting ad libs during the beginning, hooks, and end of the track, where BIG was talking shit.  But just to show some lines that he was talking about Pac: 1) I want my spot back Take 2, muthafuckas mad cause we blew niggas envious…slugs missed ya, I ain’t mad at cha, referring to 2Pac, also hinting 2Pac’s song I aint mad cha. 2) Second verse starts off with “I’m flaming gats, aiming at, fuckin maniacs who put my name in rap..” Also, the whole verse bout him being killed, he also says “look what you made me do, brains blew, my team in the marine blue,” referring to the Crips. 3) The most damaging line, “slugs hit ya chest, tap ya spine, flat-line, heard through the grapevine ya got bucked 4 times….ask for remorse, we feel no!” This refers to Pac getting shot and killed which he got shot 4 times in Las Vegas.
  3. Against All Odds- 2Pac: This was released shortly after 2Pac’s death on the Makavelli album.  That album had plenty off diss tracks on East Coast artists, but this song really dissed artists that majority the public did not know Pac was beefin’ with, such as Nas, De La Soul, and LL Cool J. It also appeared that Pac really wanted to express truths in this record and expose situations, hence “The Realest Shit I ever Wrote.” 2PAc mentions people like Haitian Jack, who he claims was an informant or witness in 2Pac sex assault case.  Other than a hot ass beat, Pac really goes hard on cats, and is just as hard as Hit em Up.
  4. Back to Back Freestyle- Drake: If you are a real Hip-Hop head, this is not the best lyrical diss track, but it could be the most devastating diss track.  Without mentioning Meek Mill’s name, Drake destroyed him in all aspects.  First of all, he killed him in like 8 bars, mentioning that Meek is about to “get bodied by a singin’ nigga.” But, he also had some good lines that were missed by even Philly ppl, such as mentioning “getting massages on the second floor in Ms. Tootsies.”  But what made it most devastating was that Meek  had no comeback and was completely embarrassed on social media.  The Philadelphia Eagles were warming up to the song.  Also, because Drake and Universal Records were smart, they did the steps to release it commercially, which had much success.  It topped the charts, and surpassed Meek Mill’s only single at the time, “All Eyez on You.”  This song may have been the highest topping diss track of all time.  It was on the charts longer than any diss track.  When the song came out, a lot of Drake songs top the charts, and all, except All Eyez on You and Rico (feat. Drake) fell off the charts.  In addition, it was nominated for a Grammy.  It sold hundreds of thousands digital copies.  Therefore, Drake made hundreds of thousands of dollars destroying Meek.  In conclusion, it gave Drake a big win in Hip-Hop, but really hit Meek really hard, especially in brand image and sales.
  5. We are the Streets- Lox:  This was one of the most low key underrated diss records, but I felt had a big significance in HipHop.  But this why this only got 1% of the vote.  There are other songs that could have taking the place of this song, but I wanted to see if it would get any votes.  Nevertheless, the Lox are some of the best lyricist and diss record writers of all-time.  At the time, the Lox had made a campaign in trying to get released from Bad Boy records, “FREE THE LOX.”  Actually, I think this is where all hood “Free” somebody from jail campaigns came from.  Nevertheless, Diddy gave in to public pressure and released them to Ruff Ryders and Interscope records.  So, one of the most anticipated albums was the Ruff Ryders’ Lox album, “We are the Streets.” The album had many hits, but many missed the title track “We are the Streets.”  It was a subliminal diss record.  I believe there was a gag order in the artist/group release contract where the Lox could not say anything negative or promote anything negative about Diddy.  So, the song was subliminal, but which hinted on who they were talking about, and also certain words were omitted from the songs.  But, the song was fierce.

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